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John Johnson

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Possessive pronouns
« on: August 27, 2014, 06:39:41 PM »
There is no doubt that ‘mine’ is a pronoun in ‘She is an old acquaintance of mine’. But I am not so sure for ‘this table is mine’. Is it a pronoun or adjective/determiner and why?

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Re: Possessive pronouns
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 11:17:46 PM »
You’re definitely right that “mine” functions as a pronoun in “She is an old acquaintance of mine.” It means “that which belongs to me,” and has the same meaning as the adjective “my” when used with a noun that follows it, as in “She is my old acquaintance.”

In “This table is mine,” however, “mine” works not as a pronoun but as the possessive case of “I” functioning as a predicate adjective that modifies the subject of the sentence. In that particular sentence, the subject is “this table” and the predicate adjective is “mine,” which is connected to the subject by the linking verb “is.”

You also asked whether the word “mine” is a determiner in “The table is mine.” The answer is no. But “mine” has a special function as a determiner that’s now considered archaic. In poetry, it can substitute for “my” before a word that begins with a vowel or a silent “h,” as in these two lines from Sir Philip Sidney’s “Sonnets from Astrophel and Stella”: Let not mine eyes be hell-driven from that light / O look, O shine, O let me die and see.

Other than this limited use, a determiner is normally positioned at the beginning of the noun phrase to indicate whether it’s being used in a specific or general sense.

A specific determiner is used when the speaker or writer believes that the listener or reader knows exactly what’s being referred to. The specific determiners are the definite article “the”; the possessives “my,” “your,” “his,” “her,” “its,” “our,” “their,” and “whose”; the demonstratives “this,” “that,” “these,” and “those”; and the interrogative “which.”

On the other hand, a general determiner is used when the speaker or writer is talking about things in general and the listener or reader doesn’t know exactly what’s being referred to. The general determiners are “a,” “an,” “any,” “another,” “other,” and “what.”

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Re: Possessive pronouns
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 01:40:50 AM »
Thank you very much for the explanations! It seems that I was misled by some grammar sites. They often give sentences like ‘this table is mine’ as an example for Possessive pronouns. I couldn’t understand why ‘pronouns’ are used on the position of an adjective. What you said explained it to me.   

As for ‘specific determiners’ and ‘general determiners’ is it the same things as definite and indefinite identifiers (I have read about them in a book) which can answer the question ‘which one(s)?’

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Re: Possessive pronouns
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 09:59:54 AM »
They certainly have some overlaps, but I don’t think we can consider “specific determiners” and “general determiners” the same as “definite identifiers” and “indefinite identifiers,” respectively. Determiners comprise the broader class of words that determine what’s being referred to in an utterance. Identifiers are just one of the two types of determiners, the other being the quantifiers.

English, of course, has four types of identifiers: the indefinite articles “a” and “an”; the definite article “the”; the possessives “my,” “your,” “his,” “her,” “its,” “our,” and “their”; and the demonstratives “this,” “that,” “these,” and “those.”

Quantifiers, on the other hand, are words or adjective phrases that make a reference to indefinite quantities, or numbers and percentages that denote specific quantities. Among the most common quantifiers of indefinite quantities in English are “several,” “few,” “a little,” and “many.” For denoting specific quantities, the cardinal numbers (“one,” “two,” “three” and so on) and percentages (10%, 40%, 65%) or fractions (1/10, 2/5, 65/100) are used.

You may want to check out the very comprehensive discussion of determiners at Dr. Graham Williamson’s SLTinfo.com website. For an extensive, specialist discussion of determiner usage in English, check out “The Well Bred Sentence: An Intensive Study of Sentence Construction and Punctuation” at EnglishGrammarTutor.com.

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Re: Possessive pronouns
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 06:53:44 PM »
Thanks a lot! Actually, you have answered some questions which I was just going to ask and I’ll ask some others about determiners after studying the links you gave.