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Can "between" be used for more than two subjects
« on: September 24, 2009, 09:38:20 AM »
Hi Mr. Carillo:

I've finally gotten hold (is this correct English?) of your "Winning Edge" book that was my prize for besting the two other participants in the "beach resort contest."  I went to San Francisco for an appointment in the morning of the 15th, and later in the afternoon met up with my brother-in-law JR in Millbrae (about a 15-minute drive south of SF).  JR was vacationing in Manila when I had you send the book to my father-in-law's house in the Cubao area where he was staying (so you didn't have to air mail it to my West Covina, CA address).  Anyway, thank you for the autographed book.  I'm eagerly looking forward to reading it.

On your topic on the use of "between," I have a question:  Can "between" be used when there are more than two subjects, or does one use "among"?

Maybe the answer lies in your book, but I haven't had the chance to open it yet.

Again, thank you.

Jonathan

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Re: Can "between" be used for more than two subjects
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009, 01:51:39 PM »
Hi Mr. Carillo:

I've finally gotten hold (is this correct English?) of your "Winning Edge" book that was my prize for besting the two other participants in the "beach resort contest."  I went to San Francisco for an appointment in the morning of the 15th, and later in the afternoon met up with my brother-in-law JR in Millbrae (about a 15-minute drive south of SF).  JR was vacationing in Manila when I had you send the book to my father-in-law's house in the Cubao area where he was staying (so you didn't have to air mail it to my West Covina, CA address).  Anyway, thank you for the autographed book.  I'm eagerly looking forward to reading it.

On your topic on the use of "between," I have a question:  Can "between" be used when there are more than two subjects, or does one use "among"?

Maybe the answer lies in your book, but I haven't had the chance to open it yet.

Again, thank you.

Jonathan

Yes, the answer indeed lies in my book Give Your English the Winning Edge, and now that you mention it, I might as well use it as my answer to your question so other Forum members will get to know about it:

Chapter 111: Choosing “Between” and “Among”

Until my college days, I used to be supremely confident of choosing correctly between the prepositions “between” and “among.” This was because my grade-school grammar teachers had so efficiently drilled into my brain this very simple rule: “Use ‘between’ for two, and use ‘among’ for more than two.” The rule worked very well indeed for sentence constructions involving twosomes, like "The bond between Eduardo and Alberto is very strong," and for those involving threesomes or more, like "Choosing from among three or five job applicants is easy." From then on, I would hardly bat an eyelash when making the choice.

But there finally came a time when I began to have my doubts. Using “between” rarely gave me problems, but there were far too many situations when using “among” for threesomes or more simply didn’t seem right. Sentences like the following particularly baffled me: “The chiffon cake was divided among Ana, Gloria, and Julia.” “The stewardess had mud among her fingers.” “The rich matron must have dropped her wallet somewhere among the supermarket, the street, and the parking lot.” In all three cases, “among” seemed to me a grammatical misfit and “between” a more natural choice.

As things turned out, my gut feel was right. Years later, when I finally put my mind to resolving my doubts, I discovered that contrary to what many of us had been taught, the idiomatically correct way to say those sentences is as follows: “The chiffon cake was divided between Ana, Gloria, and Julia.” “The stewardess had mud between her fingers.” “The rich matron must have dropped her handbag somewhere between the supermarket, the street, and the parking lot.” I also found several other wrinkles to the “between/among” rule that I hardly knew about.

It’s well settled among English-language authorities, of course, that “between” is the only choice when exactly two entities are specified: “This is a private matter between you and me.” “The hostilities between Israel and the Hezbollah have escalated into open warfare.” However, we enter a gray area when more than two entities are involved or when the number of entities is unspecified. In such cases, the choice between “between” and “among” will actually depend on what we intend to say.

Here’s what The American Heritage Book of English Usage prescribes for those situations:

(1) Use “between” when the entities are considered as distinct individuals: “The Black Hawk landed between the tenement houses.” The helicopter is assumed not to have landed on any of the individual houses but anywhere between them.

(2) Use “among” when the entities are considered as a mass or collectivity: “The Black Hawk landed among the tenement houses.” The helicopter is assumed to have landed in the general location of the houses, and the possibility is left open that it could have landed on one of those houses.

“Between” is therefore used when the entities are seen as determining the limits or endpoints of a range, “among” when indicating inclusion in a group.

The Merriam-Webster’s 11th Collegiate Dictionary emphasizes that “between” is particularly appropriate for denoting a one-to-one relationship, regardless of the number of items involved. It says that “between” is called for in the following situations:

(1) When the number is unspecified: “There should be close coordination between line departments.”

(2) When more than two items are enumerated: “This is between you and me and the walls of this room.”

(3) Even when only one item is mentioned but repetition is implied: “The motorist stopped between every intersection to make a cellular phone call.”

Both American Heritage and Merriam-Webster’s 11th consider “among” more appropriate when the emphasis is on distribution or inclusion in a group rather than on individual relationships: “The restiveness among the youth has lately become a serious problem in France.” “Dylan Thomas is among the most celebrated of modern poets in English.”

I trust that this discussion has laid to rest whatever doubts you may have had about the proper usage of “between” and “among.”

From Give Your English the Winning Edge by Jose A. Carillo (Manila: Manila Times Publishing) ©2009 by Jose A. Carillo. All rights reserved.