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English Grammar and Usage Problems => Badly Written, Badly Spoken => Topic started by: Miss Mae on November 30, 2015, 03:08:21 PM

Title: Understanding tenses
Post by: Miss Mae on November 30, 2015, 03:08:21 PM
Sir, why is there no had before the verb developed?

"The communist legacy of isolation and the consequent stereotypes that developed also exerted a huge influence on the self-perception of people with disabilities." ~ Humanity in Action (http://Humanity in Action)
Title: Re: Understanding tenses
Post by: Joe Carillo on December 05, 2015, 09:15:30 AM
It’s clear from your question that you considered that sentence to be in the past perfect tense, so it should have used the verb form “had developed” instead of “developed” to read as follows: “The communist legacy of isolation and the consequent stereotypes that had developed also exerted a huge influence on the self-perception of people with disabilities.”

Using the past perfect form “had developed” in that sentence is incorrect, however. This is because the sentence you quoted isn’t in the present perfect but in the simple past tense. The long noun phrase “the communist legacy of isolation and the consequent stereotypes that developed” is its subject, “also exerted” is the operative verb, and the noun phrase “a huge influence on the self-perception of people with disabilities” is the sentence complement.

Indeed, in that sentence, the word “developed” isn’t functioning as a verb. Together with the conjunction “that,” it forms the descriptor “that developed” to modify the subject, “the communist legacy of isolation and the consequent stereotypes.” That descriptor—it doesn’t use the auxiliary verb “has” or “have” or “had”—simply reports that the development took place without indicating whether it has ended, is ending, or will end sometime in the future.

So when would “had” be needed to work with “developed” in a sentence? It’s when we need to use the true perfect tenses to indicate the completion or “perfection” of that development in relation to a particular event or point in time.

We use the past perfect tense (had + past participle of the verb) when that development was completed with respect to another action or event in the past, as in “The communist legacy of isolation had developed before the country could institute democratic reforms.”

We use the present perfect tense (have + past participle of the verb) when that development is completed with respect to the present, but precisely when isn’t specified: “The communist legacy of isolation has developed because of the weakness of the country’s democratic institutions.”

And we use the future perfect tense (will have + past participle of the verb) when that development will be completed with respect to another future action or event: “The communist legacy of isolation will have developed by the time the country’s dictatorship decides to stop its brutal expansionist tendencies.”
Title: Re: Understanding tenses
Post by: Miss Mae on December 08, 2015, 02:16:28 PM
Thank you again, Sir!

I couldn't help but feel that I have understood the perfect tenses better now. But am I really right? These are what I have concluded from your grammatical prescriptions:

1. Use the past perfect tense when the action was completed before another action.
2. Use the present perfect tense when it is unknown when the action was completed.
3. Use the future perfect tense when the action still has to be completed in the future.

Title: Re: Understanding tenses
Post by: Miss Mae on January 03, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
Thank you for helping me understand the perfect tenses, Sir. It set me off to a better start this year :)