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Hello there guys! I am new here in Sir Carillo's forum. I hope you could help me. Is this statement wrong, "In case the problem persists, inform the Front Desk Officer and ask for assistance"?  And can it be rewritten to, "In case the probl

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Hello there guys! I am new here in Sir Carillo's forum. I hope you could help me.
Is this statement wrong,
"In case the problem persists, inform the Front Desk Officer and ask for assistance"?

And can it be rewritten to,
"In case the problem persists, inform the Front Desk Officer and ask assistance"?

Help me, guys! Please...=)

Joe Carillo

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You earlier posted this question in the Use and Misuse section and I already answered it yesterday, as follows:

The first sentence is grammatically correct: ""In case the problem persists, inform the Front Desk Officer and ask for assistance." The second construction that knocks off the preposition "for" in the phrase "ask for assistance" is awkward and grammatically wrong: "In case the problem persists, inform the Front Desk Officer and ask assistance."

When "ask" functions as an intransitive verb in the sense of making a request, it needs the preposition "for" to link it to an object, in this case "assistance." We must keep in mind that by itself, an intransitive verb can't act on a direct object; it needs a preposition as a go-between. In the particular case of the second sentence you provided, the noun "assistance" becomes what's known as the object of the preposition.

Another way of looking at the problem with the intransitive verb "ask" as used in the second sentence is this: You can't "ask" a concept (in this case "assistance") to do something for you; you ask somebody (an indirect object like, say "Amy") to give you that assistance, as in "Ask Amy for assistance." Keep in mind that because "ask" is an intransitive verb in that sentence, the noun "Amy" isn't its direct object but only an indirect object or intermediary for the verb's action. Neither is the noun "assistance" a direct object in that sentence construction; it is, in fact, only the object of the preposition "for."

In future, so as to avoid confusion, please don't post the same material in different sections of the Forum. If particular questions are not answered immediately, just make the needed follow-ups in the same discussion thread. 

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Hello, Sir!
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First of all, Sir, I am really sorry for posting my concern in different threads. I am still in the process of discovering your forum, really. I hope for your understanding, Sir.

Second, I thank you very much for attending to my concern. I am quite flattered since it has never been in my thoughts that you, personally, will answer my query. I was just anticipating other members to help me about my problem.

Third, I would like you to know that I was really glad and honored, as well, about having my inquiry published in The Manila Times last April 16, 2011. I am pretty fascinated regarding the fact that it was printed in a national newspaper. I have regular access to The Manila Times broadsheet everyday, and I was from a student publication, and you can just imagine how glad I am for such a surprise.

Lastly, I am sorry for replying this late. I am an office employee now and having busy schedules every now and then. I just wish you more success on this forum; and to its members like me, “Kudos!” =) It’s nice to know that people like you give spare time to help others about their difficulties in English language. God blesses! Until the next time, Sir.

Thank you very much, again.

Joe Carillo

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You're most welcome, drio_BC04, and you need not apologize for anything! I'm always delighted whenever a Forum member beats me to the draw in answering questions raised in the Forum's discussion boards, but if none does so after a day or two, I make it a point to answer the question myself. I just can't stand it when a grammar question posted in the Forum remains unanswered for so long!

I'm glad to know that you are a former campus journalist who's now with the country's office work force, and I greatly appreciate your wishes for the success of this Forum. Do drop by anytime you feel the need to shoot the breeze about English usage and about language in general. Cheers!