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John Johnson

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Noun clauses
« on: September 08, 2014, 11:28:17 PM »

 
As far as I know there are two main kinds of noun clauses: that-clauses and wh-clauses. But is it possible to use the term ‘whether-if-clause'? To what kind of clauses does the subordinate clause in ‘I wonder if you’ve met Jane’ belong? How many kinds of noun clauses exist?

Joe Carillo

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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 02:38:44 AM »
Noun clauses being such a complex and wide-ranging aspect of grammar, I’m forewarning you that this reply will be quite long. I’ll also be withholding my answer to your question as to how many kinds of noun clauses there are until I’ve adequately clarified here what a noun clause is to begin with.

By definition, a noun clause is a dependent or subordinate clause that functions as a noun within a sentence, whether as subject, direct or indirect object, or complement. A noun clause can’t stand alone as a complete thought because it is typically preceded by a subordinating conjunction as a dependency marker. The subordinating conjunctions are, of course, “that” (it can be elided or omitted in certain cases; see “Getting a better handle on when to use or to just knock off ‘that’”), “if,” “whether,” the “wh”-words (“who,” “what,” “which,” and “where”), the “wh-ever” words (“whomever,” “whatever,” “whichever,” and “wherever”) and, in some sentence constructions, “for.”

The above definition and particulars of the noun clause should dispel the notion right away that there are only two main kinds of noun clauses; indeed, it is too limiting—even misleading—to say that the two main kinds of noun clause are “that”-clauses and “wh”-clauses. A more comprehensive, more systematic, and more instructive approach is to classify noun clauses into its two general forms and into the eight functions that it can perform in a sentence.

TWO FORMS OF THE NOUN CLAUSE

The two general forms of the noun clause are the finite noun clause and the nonfinite noun clause. This is a classification that depends on the form taken by the verb in the noun clause.

A finite noun clause is a subordinate clause in which the operative verb is in its normal form—meaning that it’s inflected or marked for tense, person, and number. This is the case in the sentence “We are disappointed that the witness refuses to answer our questions.” Here, the noun clause “that the witness refuses to answer our questions” is finite because the verb “refuses” is marked for tense, person, and number. As I will discuss in detail later, the most common kinds of noun clauses are the finite noun clauses, which typically use the subordinating conjunctions that I enumerated at the outset.

In contrast, a nonfinite noun clause is a subordinate clause in which the operative verb is not inflected or marked for tense, person, and number. It has three forms, with the operative verb of the noun clause taking the infinitive form, the gerund form, or its base form, as follows:

1. The operative verb is in the infinitive form (to + verb). This is the case in the sentence “The general manager wants you to submit the sales report now.” Here, the noun clause “you to submit the sales report now” works as the direct object of the verb “wants.” The object pronoun “you” of the sentence serves as the subject of the nonfinite noun clause.

2. The operative verb is in the gerund form (the present participle form that ends in “-ing”). This is the case in the sentence “They all listened to me playing the piano.” Here, the noun clause “me playing the piano” works as the object of the preposition “to.” The object pronoun “me” of the sentence functions as the subject of the nonfinite noun clause.

3. The operative verb is in the verb’s base form (the infinitive form minus the “to”). This is the case in the sentence “My professor demands that I revise my dissertation.” Here, the noun clause “that I revise my dissertation” works as the direct object of the verb “demands” ((it answers the question, “Your professor demanded what?”). The object noun “I” of the sentence functions as the subject of the nonfinite noun clause.

I realize that the discussion above of the two general forms of the noun clause is quite complex and perhaps too demanding for the nonspecialist learner, but I think that taking it up and getting it out of the way this early will give us a much clearer perspective and appreciation of the many ways that noun clauses can work in a sentence.

FUNCTIONS OF NOUN CLAUSES

Noun clauses can perform the following eight functions in a sentence: as subject, as subject complement, as direct object, as object complement, as indirect object, as prepositional complement, as adjective phrase complement, and as noun phrase complement.

1. Noun clause as subject – it performs the action of the verb or acts upon the verb.

(a) Finite clause as subject:
“That”-clause: “That his reputation has sunk to rock-bottom is not a mystery to me.”
“What”-clause: “What is remarkable is that she topped the bar exam without reviewing.”
“Whether”-clause: “Whether he made his millions honestly is a big question.”
“Whatever”-clause: “Whatever happens to the project is of no concern to me.”

(b) Nonfinite clause as subject:
Infinitive clause: “To find a job should be your top priority now.”
Gerund clause: “Searching for the missing plane has taken a heavy toll on the company’s finances.”

2. Noun clause as subject complement - it describes the grammatical subject with which it is connected by a linking verb.

(a) Finite clause as subject complement:
“That”- clause: “The effect of your intervention was that the feuding tribes laid down their arms.
“Whoever”-clause: “The winner will be whoever reaches the beach first.”
“Wherever”-clause: “Our first rest stop is wherever we need to refill our fuel tank.”

(b) Nonfinite clause as subject complement:
Infinitive clause: “Your job is to ensure adequate funding for our imports.”
Gerund clause: “Our major concern is raising the academic standards of the college.”

3. Noun clause as direct object – it receives the action of the transitive verb in the main clause.

(a) Finite clause as direct object:
“Whatever”-clause: “We will buy whatever you have left in your inventory.”
“If”-clause: “The picnickers were wondering if they took the right path.”
“For”-clause: “We are praying for you to succeed.”

(b) Nonfinite clause as direct object:
Infinitive clause: “The couple preferred to travel with close friends.”  
Gerund clause: “He loved taking siesta after lunch.”  

4. Noun clause as object complement – it immediately follows and describes the direct object.

(a) Finite noun clause as object complement:
“Whatever”-clause: “You can give your first-born child whatever name you deem suitable.”

(b) Nonfinite noun clause as object complement:
Infinitive clause: “The governor asked his deputies to be role models in their communities.”

5. Noun clause as indirect object – it indicates to or for whom or what the action of a transitive verb is performed.

(a) Finite noun clause as indirect object:
“What”-clause: “Our manager refuses to give what we have recommended any importance.”

(b) Nonfinite noun clause as indirect object:
Gerund clause: “My school considers participating in athletics a must.

6. Noun clause as prepositional complement – it directly follows a preposition and completes the meaning of a prepositional phrase.

(a) Finite noun clause as prepositional complement:
“What”-clause: “The committee is deliberating on what the task force recommended.”

(b) Nonfinite noun clause as prepositional complement:
Gerund clause: “Our neighbor berated us for hammering on the walls that night.”

7. Noun clause as adjective phrase complement – it completes the meaning of an adjective that is modifying the subject of the main clause.

(a) Finite noun clause as adjective phrase complement:  
“That”-clause: “The board is delighted that all divisions of the company met their sales quotas.”

(b) Nonfinite noun clauses don’t function as adjective phrase complement

8. Noun clause as noun phrase complement – it completes the meaning of a noun. Only finite noun clauses that begin with “that” can function as a noun phrase complement, as in this sentence: “Our goal that zero waste will be achieved in one year’s time is not doable.”

By this time it should already be clear why it’s not practicable to classify noun clauses into just two kinds. Indeed, although “that”-clauses and “wh”-clauses are arguably the most common kinds of noun clauses, they are actually only subsets of the finite noun clause, which as discussed above is just one of the two forms of noun clauses. The other form is the nonfinite noun clause, which comprises the infinitive noun clause, gerund noun clause, and base-verb clause. We will be missing a lot of ground about noun clauses if we don’t give this other form the attention that it deserves.

Finally, I will now answer your two other questions about noun clauses:

1. I don’t think it’s advisable to use the term “whether-if-clause.” Both the “whether”-clause and the “if”-clause belong to the category of finite noun clauses but they are normally not used in combination. As you might have noticed in the preceding discussions of the functions of noun clauses, “whether”-clauses are used for many of the grammatical functions of noun clauses, while “if”-clauses are limited to functioning as direct objects.

2. In the sentence “I wonder if you’ve met Jane,” the clause “if you’ve met Jane” is a finite noun clause working as direct object of the verb “wonder.” As such, that noun clause directly receives the action of that verb (it answers the question, “You wondered what?”).

That will be all for the forms and kinds of noun clauses in English.
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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 01:13:18 AM »
Oh, now I have a lot to study! I think that my mistake was that I thought that if-clauses and whether-clauses are always  interchangable.

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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2014, 07:13:20 AM »
You won’t have to go far and it won’t take lots of time to know the differences in the usage and sense of “if,” “whether,” and “whether or not.” Just click the indicated link to this discussion thread in the Forum in 2012, “‘If’ and ‘whether’ or ‘whether or not.’”

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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2014, 04:21:42 AM »
So is it correct to say that there are eight kinds of finite noun clauses?

“That”-clause
“What”-clause
“Whatever”-clause
“Whoever”-clause
“Wherever”-clause:
“Whether”-clause
“If”-clause:
“For”-clause

And I am not sure that I understood what ‘for’-clause is.
“For you’ in “We are praying for you to succeed.” looks like an indirect object to me. Why is it regarded as a special kind of clauses?

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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2014, 11:09:02 AM »
Yes, I would think it's correct to say that there are eight kinds of finite noun clauses, but I must admit that this is the first time that I'm hearing it said as a definite, categorical sum. There could be a few more of the kind lurking in the peripheries of the language, but I've not really ventured that far to find them.

As to the “for”-clause in the sentence “We are praying for you to succeed,” it is actually functioning to make the sentence equivalent to "We are praying that you succeed." Here, it's much clearer that the noun clause "that you succeed" is a direct object because it directly receives the action of the verb "praying." It could easily and justifiably be argued, however, that it also works as an adverbial complement of the verb "praying," but I'm hard put to figure out how "for you to succeed" can be considered an indirect object.

By definition, an indirect object is a noun or pronoun that indicates to whom or for whom the action of a transitive verb in a sentence is performed. In that sentence, however, "praying" is functioning intransitively, so it could not act on a direct object. It could transmit its action only through the preposition "for," in which case the phrase "you to succeed" becomes the object of the preposition.

We can get into this convoluted grammatical analysis when we deal with borderline cases like the noun clause in “We are praying for you to succeed,” but it's admittedly a good way to limber up on one's skill in analyzing the functional structures of English.
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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2014, 04:09:02 AM »

Great, it seems that it is safe to say that we have eight main kinds of finite noun clauses or approximately eight kinds or something like this. You are right, exact numbers are not always possible in grammar :)

Did I understand it right that an indirect object can only exist in the combination with a direct object after a transitive verb and can’t go alone without a direct object? Before I thought that any noun or pronoun with a preposition after a intransitive can be considered as an indirect object…
Is it correct to say that we can call ‘are praying for’ in ‘we are praying for you to succeed’ a prepositional verb or a prepositional verb is something else?

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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2014, 10:14:02 AM »
Yes, I think the modifier “main” is a must in that assessment of the total number of finite noun clauses in English. After my posting on this subject yesterday, in fact, these three sentences with seemingly borderline-case noun clauses came to mind: (1) “I’m getting tired with us taking that roundabout route every day.” (2) “He’s being worn down by Arnold coming home past 12 every night.” (3) “She’s sick of you getting flustered when she sings.” It just seems tantalizingly possible that the italicized prepositional phrases in those three sentences are noun phrases functioning as direct objects, in the same way that “for you to succeed” does in the sentence “We are praying for you to succeed,” or otherwise as objects of the preposition. If that’s the case, then at least three more kinds of finite noun clauses need to be added to the total.

As to your second question, yes, an indirect object will work only in combination with a direct object after a transitive verb and can’t go it alone without a direct object. By definition, an indirect object precedes the direct object and tells to whom or for whom the action of the verb is done and who is receiving the direct object, as the noun “Valeriya” in the sentence “He gave Valeriya the roses.” Here, the verb “gave” is transitive and “Valeriya” is the indirect object; when the direct object “roses” is dropped, the sentence won’t work or gets dysfunctional: “He gave Valeriya.”

As to your third question, no, it’s incorrect to say that any noun or pronoun with a preposition after an intransitive verb can be considered as an indirect object. This is easily disproven by the sentence “It rained for days.” Here, the verb “rained” is intransitive, it is followed by the preposition “for,” but the noun “days” that follows it certainly isn’t an indirect object. Instead, it is what’s known as the object of the preposition, which is defined as a noun, noun phrase or pronoun that follows the preposition and simply completes its meaning.

And as to your last question, I don’t think we can call “are praying for” in “We are praying for you to succeed” a prepositional verb. It’s just a phrase that by itself doesn’t have a distinct function or grammatical classification. The correct parsing for the sentence “We are praying for you to succeed” is “we are praying” as the main or independent clause, and “for you to succeed” as a noun clause that serves as direct object for the verb “praying.” (By itself, of course, “pray for” is an example of a phrasal verb or prepositional phrase, which is usually a two-word phrase consisting of a verb + preposition or a verb + adverb. Check out Lesson #9 - Getting to Know the Prepositional Phrases in the Forum.)
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Re: Noun clauses
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 07:29:44 PM »
Thank you very much for the explanations! I am sure that now I understand the subject much better.