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Justine A.

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Sentences that start with "Had"
« on: May 15, 2014, 01:34:43 PM »
Could the grammar of doubt and uncertainty explain the sentences that begin in "Had" as in "Had it not been..."  and why the  sentence below  started with "Had" and not with the conditional word "If":

"Had Jon joined in an hour after Jess started working, the job would have been finished in 7 hours."

Joe Carillo

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Re: Sentences that start with "Had"
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 07:56:30 PM »
When we talk about the grammar of doubt and uncertainty, we are talking about the use of the so-called modals, or the auxiliary verbs that indicate conjecture, supposition, or belief rather than established facts or absolute certainty. These auxiliary verbs are, of course, “can,” “could,” “must,” “might,” “may,” “should,” “shall,” “ought to,” “will,” and “would.” When we say “Gina might dance,” for instance, we are conveying the idea that Gina knows how to dance but we are not sure that she will do so under the circumstance that we have in mind. However, we see no need to state a condition for what she might decide to do.

On the other hand, when we talk about the grammar of conditionality, we are talking about how to convey the idea that a particular action can take place only if a certain condition or set of conditions is fulfilled. For instance, when we say “If Gina likes the music, she would likely dance,” we are indicating that it’s likely for Gina to dance if the music suits her fancy. There’s a condition for what she would likely do, unlike in the case of the modal sentence “Gina might dance,” which is simply a supposition or belief.

Based on this distinction between modal statements and conditional statements, we definitely can conclude that modality isn’t the same as conditionality. They are different modes of expression altogether. It would therefore be a stretch if not altogether ill-advised to attempt to make the grammar of modals explain why the conditional sentence below starts with “had” and not with “if” as expected of a conditional sentence:

Had Jon joined in an hour after Jess started working, the job would have been finished in 7 hours.”

The sentence above that you presented is actually just an alternative construction—a more elegant one, I must say—of the so-called third conditional or no possibility sentence, which denotes a past condition that didn’t happen, thus making it impossible for a wished-for result to have happened. This type of sentence has the following structure: the “if” clause states the impossible past condition using the past perfect tense “had + past participle of the verb,” is followed by a comma, then is followed by the impossible past result in the form “would have + past participle of the verb.”

Thus, the more common construction of the sentence that you presented is as follows:

If Jon had joined in an hour after Jess started working, the job would have been finished in 7 hours.”*

Note that in third-conditional constructions where “had” introduces the condition, the conditional clause drops the “if” altogether. But whether the condition is introduced by “if” or “had” in a third-conditional sentence, the sense remains the same. In both constructions of the sentence that you presented, in particular, the speaker is talking of an impossible outcome because Jon didn’t join in an hour after Jess started working and the job wasn’t finished in 7 hours.

Such use of “had” instead of “if” for the conditional clause is also an option for the so-called second conditional or unreal possibility sentence, which denotes a possible but very unlikely result that the stated future condition will be fulfilled; in short, the stated outcome is an unreal possibility. This type of conditional has the following sentence structure: the “if” clause states the future condition in the simple past tense, is followed by a comma, then followed by the future result clause in the form “would + base form of the verb,” as in this example:

If I finished my medical studies, I would be a surgeon now.”

That second conditional sentence will mean exactly the same—and sound more elegant at that—if we use “had” instead of “if” to introduce the condition:

Had I finished my medical studies, I would be a surgeon now.”

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*Take note that in the result clause “the job would have been finished in 7 hours,” the verb is in the passive voice, so it's in the form “would have + been + past participle of the verb” instead of the active-voice form “would have + past participle of the verb.”  
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Justine A.

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Re: Sentences that start with "Had"
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 08:36:41 PM »
How could you explain this conditional sentence: "Were it not that the crocodile had swallowed an alarm clock, whose ticking warns every one of its approach, Captain Hook would have been eaten long ago?" Could I use the conditional "Had" instead of "Were" in the sentence I presented?
« Last Edit: May 31, 2014, 08:46:09 PM by justine aragones »

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Re: Sentences that start with "Had"
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 09:14:20 PM »
The following conditional sentence that you presented is grammatically and structurally correct but it has an abstruse, convoluted syntax that borders on the archaic:

“Were it not that the crocodile had swallowed an alarm clock, whose ticking warns every one of its approach, Captain Hook would have been eaten long ago.”

Yes, you definitely can use “had” instead of “were” in that conditional sentence. Indeed, the resulting construction below is much simpler and concise, more straightforward, more elegant, and more readable than the clunky original. Examine its smoother syntax and read aloud to compare:

“Had the crocodile not swallowed an alarm clock, whose ticking warns every one of its approach, Captain Hook would have been eaten long ago.”