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Joe Carillo

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How the meaning of “score” differs from “a number”
« on: June 18, 2013, 06:44:26 PM »
Question e-mailed by Mr. Al B., June 18, 2013:

Dear Mr. Carillo:

If “score” means 20-39 people, how about “a number”?

Thank you.

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Al B.

My reply to Mr. Al B.:

Traditionally, a “score” is a group of 20 things—not specifically a range of 20-39 people or things—and it’s often used in combination with a cardinal number, as in that famous opening line of Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg address, “Fourscore and seven years ago…”, meaning “87 years ago.” In the plural form “scores,” it means an indefinitely large number, as in the recent world news headline “Turkish police fire tear gas, wound scores of people in worst protests for years.”

On the other hand, “a number” means an indefinite usually large total, as in “A number of students got stranded in Metro Manila Monday night due to flash floods triggered by a heavy downpour.” In the plural form “numbers,” the word means a numerous group, as in “In predominantly Roman Catholic Philippines, the demonstrators came in numbers to protest the new Reproductive Health law.”
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Re: How the "on" differs from "in" ?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 07:27:09 PM »
Thank you Mr. Carillo.

Sir, if "on" may be used "on the bus" or "on the plane". How about with the submarine? Can it be "on the submarine" ? Heard that it should be "in the submarine". Please help.

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Re: How the meaning of “score” differs from “a number”
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 11:33:37 PM »
For indicating location, the general rule in American English is to use the preposition “in” for being in an enclosed or circumscribed space, “on” for being on a surface, and “at” for being at a point in space.

“In” is idiomatically used in these cases: “The children are [in the kitchen, in the garden, in the car, in the library, in the class, in school]. This is in the context of “kitchen,” “garden,” “car,” “library, “class,” and “school” as enclosed or circumscribed—but not virtually closed or insulated—space.

On the other hand, it’s idiomatic for native American English speakers to use “on” for being in these particular means of transport: “They are [on the plane, on the train, on the boat, on the submarine].” This explains the usage of “on” in this sentence regarding work on a submarine: “One of the typical duties of a Seaman Subfarer is working with non-nuclear divisions on the submarine.”

However, for indicating an action, activity, or process that happens inside fully closed vessels, “in” is the idiomatic usage, as in this sentence: “Previously there were fears that women were more at risk from a build-up of carbon dioxide in the submarine.” It’s in this same context that “in” is used in this sentence: “The vinegar was fermented in big batching tanks.”

In contrast, to indicate being located at a particular point in space, the preposition “at” is idiomatically used: “She was [at home, at the library, at the office, at school, at work] when we arrived.” The context is that these locations are not reckoned as places but as simply a point—a small dot of sorts—in space.

We must keep in mind that these indicative preposition usages are essentially conventional, even quirkish at times. They have no inherent or discernible logic of their own but have simply established themselves over time as the preferred usage by native English speakers.

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Lesson #8 – Specific Rules for Preposition Usage

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Re: How the meaning of “score” differs from “a number”
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 12:28:01 PM »
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Re: How the meaning of “score” differs from “a number”
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2014, 02:09:21 PM »
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