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hill roberts

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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2009, 06:43:34 PM »
I thought so, Joe, thank you, Prof!
That's why I quickly typed out that phrase...I knew it was wrong!!!!
 Here's another example:

1. "He understands full well the consequences." or should it be:
2. "He understands fully well the.."

I'm learning everyday, Sir.

Joe Carillo

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Should it be "fully well" or "full well"?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2009, 07:47:23 PM »
Both “full well” and “fully well” in the sentences you gave as examples are correct usage. This is because “full” actually doubles up as adjective and as an adverb. It is an adverb that means “very” or “extremely” in the sentence “He understands full well the consequences,” and an adjective that means “containing as much or as many as is possible or normal” in the sentence “The bin is full of milk powder.” Of course, “fully” is unmistakably an adverb that means “completely” or “in full manner or degree,” as in “He understands fully well the consequences.” The speaker or writer can therefore take his or her pick between “full” and “fully” in such constructions without any risk of being declared grammatically wrong.

hill roberts

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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2009, 05:26:00 PM »
At last, somebody has enlightened me on this...Muchas gracias, Joe.

Que tengas un buen fin de semana. (Have a good weekend.)

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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 07:21:33 PM »

Hi Hill,

What I truly miss is the handcrafted lettering on invitations and poster designs. With all the fonts available in today's word processors people take for granted the neatness and the beauty of these artwork.

I still remember making a report using an old Olympia typewriter with an extra long pin to handle the size of spreadsheet paper. I still remember how to set the tab spaces and the margins.

I sure miss seeing a well written letter. I suppose people don't know the difference between block form and semi-block form business letters; or which part should be bold faced and what are the standard line spacings. And what about the way these should be folded before inserting inside an envelope? I'm so old school but these are the proper ways of doing things ;D

As for manuscript footnoting, I have not come across Latin footnotes (like ibid, op cit, loc cit, c.p., etc.) for decades. Admittedly, I find the numeric footnoting more practical but I am afraid one day I will encounter an old document with these Latin footnotes and forget what they are supposed to mean.




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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 10:53:20 PM »
Hi, Renz, buenas noches!
I totally agree. My mother(deceased) had beautiful handwriting, her sisters, my sisters,
(I come from a family of educators>>mother, three sisters, cousins, aunts)
I almost ended up teaching, too....but that's another story.) It is a shame that there
is no standard of handwriting anymore. A couple of years ago, I had a Chinese teenage
student who came for English lessons. What shocked me was his awful, awful, handwriting. Before I could teach him English (medium of instruction is Spanish since I don't speak Mandarin)I taught
him the basic handwriting method. In a fortnight, his handwriting improved and when we resumed
our English class, his whole disposition also changed! This student is now in Madrid> He wanted
to be a doctor...I haven't heard from him for  a while, but yes, he can speak, write, spell, read
English. Imagine, he was so pleased that I taught him to write properly. I like Chinese students---they pay well. With the South Americans, I had to halve the fee....
Renz, the Chinese here do well.
All the best,

Hill :)


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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2009, 07:55:17 AM »
Hi Hill,

I was astonished to see the penmanship of a Japanese I met many years ago. However, I realized later on that it was quite understandable. You see, like the Chinese, the Japanese are trained on caligraphy and this is more tedious than western-style handwriting because for the most part they use brushes.

This is why the Japanese was holding the pen at the middle and his wrist was bent as high as possible from the paper surface.

A Chinese who spoke Spanish before he learned English? The Chinese government must really be spending fortunes to educate its youth.

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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2009, 03:01:09 AM »
Hi, Renz,
Sorry for the late reply...
The Chinese student in question grew up in Spain although he was born in China. Many of my
Chinese students were born here, although the first female one was actually born in China but
came here when she was five or six. She's now 25 years old and a looker to boot. She's in China
at the moment looking for business. As

As I mentioned, the Chinese children here mainly are already Spanish speakers since many of them
were born here. Mind you, when I first came here three decades ago, you could count in one hand
the number of Chinese people here. Now, they number approximately 350,000 in Spain.

As for teaching English and using Spanish as the medium of instruction, it was or is the only way
possible to communicate with them, otherwise, they'd have gone to a Mandarin-speaking Tutor.
So, the truth is, many a time, I teach them Spanish too, especially spelling and sometimes grammar.
Apologies for not replying sooner. I had some difficulty remembering which topic we were on when
we touched on this great conversation.

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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2009, 05:44:10 PM »

No worries Hill  ;)  Out here, Instituto De Cervantes is very aggressive in promoting Spanish and it is gaining ground. Last week the institute held a Spanish film festival featuring over a dozen Spanish films.

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Re: Should vs. Would
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2010, 02:57:18 PM »
Use should to express an obligation. Use would to express a customary action. Should is the conditional form of shall. Would is the conditional form of will.
In informal English today, the conditional tense is usually conjugated entirely with would : If I had enough money, I would buy a new car.

Should is used:
- to give advice :                  You should take regular exercise.
- in hypothetical situations :   Should you need any help, just call me.
- to give tentative opinions :    I should think the cost will be about £100.
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